Curse

Ensign · Feb 25, 2007, 08:42 PM // 20:42

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Originally Posted by Evilsod

I've heard the rumour that it use to be a regular skill but was made elite due to Illusionary Weapon making it so overly powerful...

It was a combination of that really unwarranted fear (back then it was like Dual Shot, each hit only doing 75% damage) - the developers were really afraid of IW Mesmers and a bunch of other irrelevant mechanics - and a lack of any sword elite for Prophecies. The latter part I'll respect, not having a sword elite would be pretty sad...but making the only sword elite weak is pretty sad as well.

That said the skill isn't completely useless, between the dual shot and cyclone axe effect you get a lot of hits out of the skill. To make it not suck utterly, you need to really be buffing your attacks with +damage. The Conjures are pretty good, as is Strength of Honor (potentially with Order of Pain from a caster) - those will let you get the most milage out of the extra attacks from Hundred Blades.

Peace,
-CxE

Coloneh · Feb 25, 2007, 09:47 PM // 21:47

the only real use i can see is a ginormous heal while solo farming with live vicariously+ vig spirit

pingu666 · Feb 26, 2007, 12:23 AM // 00:23

it strikes twice, so twice the adrenaline gain of say, tripple chop?

Coloneh · Feb 26, 2007, 12:52 AM // 00:52

but how much adrenaline do you really need?

Evilsod · Feb 26, 2007, 01:49 AM // 01:49

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Originally Posted by pingu666

it strikes twice, so twice the adrenaline gain of say, tripple chop?

Not quite. As of the last time i used it, it strikes all foes Adjacent to your TARGET. Whereas Cyclone Axe/Triple Chop strike all foes Adjacent to YOU. Unless your alone and have plenty of space to organise the mob into a nice organised group in front of you... its awful even for adren gain.

It should be buffed to all foes adjacent to you tbh, Cyclone can still gain more adrenaline and is non-elite. You can try to say that Triple Chop/Cyclone Axe uses 2 skills for what 100Blades gets in 1. That is 2 hits. Thing is those 2 skills only need 1 skill to cause Deep Wound, whereas 100blades would need 2. Over the course of which Axe would hit for alot more damage. Even if you said its for adren gain it can still be outshone by non-elites. If you said damage it still could be without huge buffs.
Its not even unblockable like Sun and Moon is now.

Its just too conditional, it needs the right agro, the right mob size, the right team build and the right skillbar on the enemies...

shaderaven · Feb 26, 2007, 06:01 AM // 06:01

Can't they just make it cause bleeding and be done with it? Bleeding is hardly overpowering condition and the fact that it targets all enemies adjacent to your target instead to yourself will prevent it from being too good on solo farming, but it will circumvent the sword great weakness - deep wound aplication.

Cathode_Reborn · Feb 26, 2007, 07:50 AM // 07:50

Why is Hundred Blades always bashed while Triple Chop always gets lots of praise?

[skill]Hundred Blades[/skill][skill]Triple Chop[/skill]

Triple Chop adds 42+damage, and hits all foes adjacent to you.

Hundred Blades strikes twice, meaning gaining adren much faster. The 2nd strikes also have the possibility of doing more than 42 damage if you hit a low-armor target.

Hitting foes adjacent to you can be helpful in some situations but hitting foes adjacent to your target is better in other times. Both are commonly used to gain adrenaline, but swords are much more adren-hungry than axes. It's not such a good idea for an axe-user to use his elite for gaining adrenaline faster since there's not many high-damage skills that require lots of adrenaline. Now compare to what a sword has.

Both of these skills arn't that great and there's better choices out there.

Ser Jaremy Ryker · Feb 26, 2007, 12:23 PM // 12:23

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Originally Posted by shaderaven

Can't they just make it cause bleeding and be done with it? Bleeding is hardly overpowering condition and the fact that it targets all enemies adjacent to your target instead to yourself will prevent it from being too good on solo farming, but it will circumvent the sword great weakness - deep wound aplication.

Bleeding (especially if it was applied to all the targets) would make it much more worthwhile in your skillbar as it would free up a skill slot as you wouldn't have to take the worthless sever-artery. HB then gash to start your spike. I also like the idea of striking foes adjacent to you instead of your target. Another possibility would be to lower the recharge time a few seconds. This is starting to sound like it should go into the Sardelac forum.

Katari · Feb 26, 2007, 03:40 PM // 15:40

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Originally Posted by Cathode_Reborn

Why is Hundred Blades always bashed while Triple Chop always gets lots of praise?

Triple Chop is better because it has an easier to use AoE, and frequently does more damage than two sword hits would.

With Triple Chop, you get to wade in, and you just want stuff around you, not stuff directly in front of you as with 100blades. Depending on mob size, you often end up getting a similar amount of hits, despite 100blades hitting each target twice.

If you just want adrenaline, run D-Slash.

clawofcrimson · Feb 26, 2007, 09:09 PM // 21:09

havent used 100 blades since my prof. pve days .... quite some time now... It definitely needs a buff... my vote is to add bleeding... the sardalec discussion is here:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10124039

noocoo · Feb 26, 2007, 09:59 PM // 21:59

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Originally Posted by Evilsod

I've heard the rumour that it use to be a regular skill but was made elite due to Illusionary Weapon making it so overly powerful... although it'd of been better to just give it an adren cost like they did with Sun and Moon. Can't gain adren if you can't hit.

Yup, I also heard it before. However, I totally don't understand why [skill]Illusionary Weaponry[/skill] with [skill]Hundred blades[/skill] become overpower.

It is just a ridiculous excuse

qvtkc · Feb 26, 2007, 10:55 PM // 22:55

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Originally Posted by Evilsod

although it'd of been better to just give it an adren cost like they did with Sun and Moon. Can't gain adren if you can't hit.

Ok. [skill]"To the limit!"[/skill]

Coloneh · Feb 27, 2007, 02:10 AM // 02:10

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Originally Posted by noocoo

Yup, I also heard it before. However, I totally don't understand why [skill]Illusionary Weaponry[/skill] with [skill]Hundred blades[/skill] become overpower.

It is just a ridiculous excuse

its so you cant deal out 80+ armor ignoring damage every few seconds for 5 energy. its not a ridiculous excuse at all.

Retribution X · Feb 27, 2007, 02:22 AM // 02:22

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

its so you cant deal out 80+ armor ignoring damage every few seconds for 5 energy. its not a ridiculous excuse at all.

Umm, Iron Palm + Exhuasting assualt?

That's not an elite combo, uses daggers, (Which, incidently have an overall FASTER attack speed than a sword), and you can poison people with an Me/A...

Don't tell me it's elite for that reason...

Retribution X · Feb 27, 2007, 02:24 AM // 02:24

Damn. Doublepost. Sorry 'bout that.

*Damned internet*

Demonspitfir · Feb 28, 2007, 04:00 AM // 04:00

For 100 Blades it all depends on the ammount of enemies around you at a time. Such as if you were to pop into a PvP/PvE mob and you are able to add a + Dmg to your weapon then Pop 100 Blades (5 Energy) on then jump down in with 'Ride the Lighting' and pop on Inferno or some good Nuking. You would or Could do some serious damage.

Just Remember Kiddies the adults at A-Net know how to make games, 100 Blades is an Experience Skill that means you must know how to use it to kick ass with it.

Coloneh · Feb 28, 2007, 05:21 AM // 05:21

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Originally Posted by Retribution X

Umm, Iron Palm + Exhuasting assualt?

That's not an elite combo, uses daggers, (Which, incidently have an overall FASTER attack speed than a sword), and you can poison people with an Me/A...

Don't tell me it's elite for that reason...

That cost more than 5 energy, and has a LONG recharge

XxUberMonkeyxX · Feb 28, 2007, 06:17 AM // 06:17

sever - gash - final thrust needs alot of adrenaline, HB enables you to gain the adrenaline that you need for final thrust w/o the use of a attack speed buff assuming that you have 2 or 3 foes adjacent to each other....

also with HB giving you adrenaline that you need for final thrust or close to that, you can deliver a quick spike to a target where as you build you adrenaline on a target but when you focus your power on 1 target you would normally kill that target before you even get 7 or 8 strikes of adrenaline

lambda the great · Feb 28, 2007, 06:25 AM // 06:25

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Originally Posted by Demonspitfir

Just Remember Kiddies the adults at A-Net know how to make games, 100 Blades is an Experience Skill that means you must know how to use it to kick ass with it.

hellllllllllllllllll yyyeeesssshhhhhhh

Evilsod · Feb 28, 2007, 11:58 AM // 11:58

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Originally Posted by Demonspitfir

For 100 Blades it all depends on the ammount of enemies around you at a time. Such as if you were to pop into a PvP/PvE mob and you are able to add a + Dmg to your weapon then Pop 100 Blades (5 Energy) on then jump down in with 'Ride the Lighting' and pop on Inferno or some good Nuking. You would or Could do some serious damage.

Just Remember Kiddies the adults at A-Net know how to make games, 100 Blades is an Experience Skill that means you must know how to use it to kick ass with it.

Eh? 100Blades... the elite.... Then Ride the Lightning the foes your adjacent to already.... another elite... then Inferno? Wtf?

100blades does not depend on the foes around you, it depends on the foes standing directly in front of you within 5cm of the foe you just targetted.

That second statement was just lame... grow up.

At qvtkc. Stop been stupid. By the time you'd gained 8 adren to use Sun n Moon you could've won the fight already.